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EPISODE 401

Your Sales Process Is Broken! Here’s What Today’s Borrowers Actually Want

Jake Vermillion, CMO of Mortgage Champions — sales/marketing strategist with 30 years of industry training behind the firm · Thu, 25 Sep 2025
Lead GenerationAgent ReferralsAI & TechnologyConsumer Direct

Jake Vermillion breaks down why most retail loan officers are losing deals before they even start: rushing borrowers to online applications, skipping discovery conversations, and misaligning their marketing with how they actually sell. This episode is essential for any LO still sending application links on the first call or relying on rate-shopping as their differentiator.

Stop sending application links and start completing the application live on the phone — longer calls kill rate objections and dramatically increase pull-through.

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The playbook

  1. 1. Respond to every inbound lead within minutes, even if just a text: 'I'm in a meeting — I'll call you at [specific time]. Looking forward to it.'
  2. 2. Open the call by immediately acknowledging the referral source with genuine enthusiasm and positioning yourself as a team.
  3. 3. Slow down and spend 15-22 minutes on the phone completing the application together — do not send a link.
  4. 4. Use 1003 fields as relationship-building prompts (employment = 'What do you do?', dependents = 'Do you have kids?') rather than clinical data collection.
  5. 5. When affordability is the objection, run a blended-rate debt consolidation analysis showing total monthly debt service before and after the mortgage structure.
  6. 6. Immediately after the call, email the borrower and CC the referring agent — confirm next steps, express excitement, make the agent feel like a partner.
  7. 7. Market only what actually closes deals in your conversations — identify the last thing you said that made a borrower say 'I'm in,' and turn that into content.

Worth quoting

“Rate immediately drops out of the question every single time. It's almost like an afterthought at the very end of the call.”
“What you need to market is what ultimately converts in a sales conversation — what sells is what markets in our business.”

Best for

LOs who are still sending application links on the first call and wonder why their pull-through rate is low and borrowers keep shopping rates.

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