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EPISODE 296

Lessons in Lead Generation and Marketing Automation

Michael McAllister, founder of Empower LO and mortgage marketing automation specialist · Tue, 19 Sep 2023
Lead GenerationAI & TechnologyConsumer DirectAgent Referrals

Geoff Zimpfer and Michael McAllister discuss the evolution of lead generation for loan officers, the difference between traditional referral business and consumer-direct strategies, and how marketing automation (specifically Go High Level) bridges the gap. They also announce their partnership merging myAgent Classes with Empower LO's tech infrastructure. Best for LOs curious about diversifying beyond agent referrals into consumer-direct or paid lead channels.

You don't need a call center to compete with Rocket Mortgage — you need marketing automation that simulates one, combined with the relational fundamentals that big lenders can't replicate.

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The playbook

  1. 1. Choose ONE consumer-direct or lead-gen channel and find proof it works before committing.
  2. 2. Set up your marketing automation platform (e.g., Go High Level) with pre-built sequences BEFORE launching any lead campaign.
  3. 3. When a new internet lead enters, trigger an immediate automated sequence: ringless voicemail + text + email, stopping when they respond.
  4. 4. Get on the phone and mirror the lead's communication style (disc/mirroring) to compensate for the missing agent trust transfer.
  5. 5. Track every lead in a pipeline view; expect 100-120 leads per 3 closings and plan your volume accordingly.
  6. 6. Measure results at the 120-day mark; if not at break-even, adjust phone script and follow-up cadence before adding spend.

Worth quoting

“We have no shortage of methods of generating business. We have a shortage of commitment to a couple regular and consistent practices.”
“I would never suggest somebody touch internet leads without having a system like this in place.”

Best for

LOs who want to add a consumer-direct or paid lead channel but have wasted money on programs they quit too early due to no automation or tracking system.

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