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EPISODE 285

Building Your Wealth Advisory Team to Get More Referrals

Justin Stoddart, author of 'The Upstream Model' and CEO of Pro Insight · Wed, 14 Jun 2023
Agent ReferralsClasses & EventsPersonal BrandingLead Generation

Justin Stoddart introduces the Upstream Model — a framework for moving from solicitor/vendor to peer and mentor by partnering with professionals whose current clients are your future clients. The episode also introduces the 'Family Office' concept: an exclusive, territory-based group of asset-focused professionals (LO, realtor, CPA, financial advisor, attorney, insurance) who collaborate to serve clients during life events. LOs who rely on agent relationships or cold prospecting and want a systematized referral engine should listen.

Stop marketing to consumers and start partnering with one professional whose entire client base is your ideal borrower — then serve their business problems before you ever ask for a deal.

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The playbook

  1. Step 1 — Identify upstream partners: List professionals in your market whose current clients are your future clients (financial advisors, CPAs, estate attorneys, commercial RE agents, insurance agents).
  2. Step 2 — Request a discovery meeting: Lead with 'I'm not here to pitch — I want to understand your business.' Ask the three questions: goal, plan, bottlenecks.
  3. Step 3 — Deliver value before asking for anything: Use the four-bucket framework to bring back one connection, idea, or resource that addresses their stated bottleneck.
  4. Step 4 — Form your local Family Office team: Recruit 4-6 exclusive, non-competing professionals who share a common client avatar and are willing to collaborate — not just refer behind closed doors.
  5. Step 5 — Run collaborative client events: Host expert panel Zooms or family office consultations where each member invites their database and all members present together, breaking down silos.
  6. Step 6 — Serve during life events: When a trigger event occurs (divorce, relocation, retirement, business sale), activate the relevant members of your Family Office to deliver a coordinated, warm referral experience to the client.

Worth quoting

“While others are doubling down on artificial intelligence, I'm doubling down on human intelligence.”
“If you want somebody's business, become a part of their business.”

Best for

LOs who are stuck in vendor mode with agents — showing up with rate sheets and apps — and want a structured, relationship-first system to become a true referral partner.

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