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EPISODE 277

Secrets of Converting Online Leads to Closed Sales

Kyle Wright, top-producing LO at American Pacific Mortgage — 336 units / $138M in 2022, 90% purchase · Mon, 10 Apr 2023
Agent ReferralsLead GenerationDatabase & Past ClientsConsumer Direct

Kyle Wright breaks down his full paid-lead system: how he co-invests in online leads with real estate agent teams, the exact contact cadence he runs, the CRMs and VA tools he uses, and why he converts 25–30% of applications taken. Essential listening for LOs who want to add a consumer-direct or co-marketing lead channel alongside their agent business.

Co-invest in paid leads with a committed agent team, build a 10-day contact system with a VA follow-up layer, and your $800–$1,000 cost-per-close becomes a repeatable, scalable business engine.

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The playbook

  1. 1. Agent sends lead (or lender receives direct mortgage-inquiry lead) into CRM — automatic drip campaign triggers immediately.
  2. 2. LO or team member attempts contact: goal is live phone call within 5 minutes for direct mortgage inquiries; agents call first on real-estate leads, then pass warm ones to LO.
  3. 3. LO team works lead for 3 days with personal outreach attempts.
  4. 4. If no contact after 3 days, lead transfers to VA caller (Velocify/AP Connect) for 10 consecutive days of outbound calls.
  5. 5. If still no contact after 13 days total, LO calls the referring agent on day 14 to report status and ask if agent has an alternate contact.
  6. 6. Lead stays in CRM on automated monthly text drip; at 2-month mark, system prompts LO to manually reach out to both lead and agent.
  7. 7. At 12 months, CRM surfaces the lead again with a reminder to both LO and agent to attempt re-engagement.
  8. 8. On every live conversation, take application on the phone — do not defer to an online app link. Secure the SSN to lock in the 72% retention rate.
  9. 9. Run soft credit pull ($6) before any full credit report to filter unqualified leads cheaply.
  10. 10. Track weekly: leads received vs. pre-qualified (on physical notepad or CRM board); target 50% contact rate and 28–35% close rate on applications taken.

Worth quoting

“The leads don't suck, you suck.”
“If I buy one lead and do my job right, I should be able to turn that one lead into three leads, and two should be free.”

Best for

LOs who want to co-market with agent teams using paid online leads and need a concrete contact-to-close system to make the numbers work.

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