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EPISODE 201

A Case Study in the Customer Journey Experience

Sue Woodard, Chief Customer Officer at Total Expert with 30 years of mortgage/financial services experience · Thu, 25 Mar 2021
Database & Past ClientsAI & TechnologyAgent ReferralsMindset & Productivity

Sue Woodard shares findings from Total Expert's 'Experience Experiment,' where four employees across different generations secret-shopped three lenders to audit the customer journey. The episode covers what broke down (slow follow-up, no personalization, weak content, no prior-relationship recognition) and how LOs can architect a better purchase experience. Best for LOs who are coasting on refi volume and haven't reviewed their client communication process in over a year.

If you don't deliberately design your customer journey, what you think is happening almost certainly isn't — audit it before someone else exposes the gaps.

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The playbook

  1. Step 1 — Define: Map the ideal journey for each persona (new consumer, repeat buyer, prospective agent, existing agent partner, ops team) on a wall or whiteboard with post-it notes.
  2. Step 2 — Audit: Have someone secret-shop your process OR pull 2 current clients and ask for unvarnished mid-transaction feedback on gaps and friction points.
  3. Step 3 — Identify repeating friction: Any question asked by clients more than 3 times = missing communication; any manual step done more than 3 times = candidate for automation.
  4. Step 4 — Operationalize fixes: For each gap, decide whether it gets an automated touchpoint, a human call, or a content asset (video, FAQ, checklist). Assign it to a specific trigger point in the timeline.
  5. Step 5 — Build in surprise/delight moments: Pick 1-2 wow moments (e.g., automated send-out card at approval, mid-transaction check-in call) and make them a standing part of the process — not one-offs.
  6. Step 6 — Iterate weekly: Give your team a shared log (journal, Google Doc, or Trello board) to record friction they encounter. Review in your weekly meeting and fix one item per week.

Worth quoting

“The loan officers leveraging technology to free up their time to do the human things — those loan officers will replace the ones who aren't using any technology at all.”
“There's really only one hero in a story and the hero is not us. It's our customer.”

Best for

LOs buried in refi volume who haven't looked at their purchase client experience in months and want a concrete framework to audit and fix it before the market shifts.

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