Ep 151: Planning Your Best Year Ever: Lessons from a Billion-Dollar Producer
Shashank Shekhar breaks down how he built a $180M+/year origination business starting from scratch in 2008 with English as his third language. He covers personal branding, database and refinance strategy, business planning with data, and lead conversion. Best for LOs who want a systems-level view of how a top-15 producer actually runs his business.
Build your business so consumers come to you — through blogging, books, and reviews — rather than begging realtors for scraps.
Takeaways you can run this week
- Pull every number from last year before building any plan: total leads, leads-to-app ratio, app-to-close ratio, and source of each closed loan. If you don't have this data, your only 2020 goal is to build a tracking system (Google Sheets is fine).
- Identify your current #1 referral source and extract more from it before chasing anything new. If a realtor sends you 6 of their 10 deals, find out why the other 4 go elsewhere — product gap, demographic mismatch, or relationship gap — and fix it.
- Every time you close a purchase loan, set up a refinance alert in your pipeline tracker so you can capture that client when rates drop. Shashank has done 4-5 refis for single clients; losing that window means losing the future referral chain too.
- Spend 30 non-negotiable minutes daily on long-term business (texting 5 realtors, writing a blog post, sending a $20-30 Harry & David gift, DM-ing a referral partner) — even during refi booms when fires are constant.
- Build 4 lead pillars simultaneously: (1) past client database, (2) realtor/referral partners, (3) direct-to-consumer online presence, and (4) consumer review sites (Yelp, Google, Facebook, Zillow). Shashank's largest single transaction ever came through Yelp.
- On the first call with any lead, listen before pitching. Match your credibility statement to their stated need: first-time buyer gets 'I've helped hundreds of first-time buyers'; investor gets 'I specialize in investment property rates and can connect you with investor-focused agents.'
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- Step 1 — Pull last year's data: total leads, lead-to-app %, app-to-close %, and source breakdown for every closed loan.
- Step 2 — Diagnose the lead-to-app gap: what happened to the leads that did not apply? Communication lag, product gap, or motivation issues?
- Step 3 — Diagnose the app-to-close gap: track every fall-through reason (appraisal, rate shopping, qualification) and fix the most common one.
- Step 4 — Set revenue levers: choose whether to improve conversion rate, increase lead volume, or both — and assign specific targets to each.
- Step 5 — Maximize existing sources first: get more from current realtor partners and mine the past-client database before adding any new lead channel.
- Step 6 — Add one new lead source and give it 6-24 months to mature before judging it.
- Step 7 — Protect long-term activities with a daily 30-minute block that is non-negotiable regardless of refi volume.
Worth quoting
“Personal branding is what really separates you from everybody else.”
“My first question to them is, what are you doing with your existing client base? And most of them are like, nothing.”
Best for
LOs who are doing decent purchase volume but have no system for tracking conversions, mining their database, or capturing refi windows from past clients.
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